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Top 100 Movies, Anyone Got Them?
The sight and sound discussion peaked my interest on this one, so here's mine:
Dog Star Man's Top 100 as of 2009
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
2. The Godfather (1972)
3. Ikiru (1952)
4. Raging Bull (1980)
5. The Seventh Seal (1957)
6. 8 1/2 (1963)
7. Rear Window (1954)
8. Schindler's List (1993)
9. The Life and Death of 9413, a Hollywood Extra (1928)
10. Casablanca (1942)
11. A Woman Under the Influence (1974)
12. The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
13. Blade Runner (1982)
14. Goodfellas (1990)
15. Hoop Dreams (1994)
16. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
17. The Lord of the Rings (2001, 2002, 2003)
18. Eraserhead (1977)
19. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
20. Little Dieter Needs to Fly (1997)
21. The Shop on Main Street (1965)
22. Singin’ in the Rain (1952)
23. Citizen Kane (1941)
24. L'Avventura (1960)
25. The Searchers (1956)
26. Chinatown (1974)
27. Double Indemnity (1944)
28. The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
29. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
30. Amelie (2000)
31. The Tales of Hoffmann (1951)
32. Winter Light (1963)
33. The Seven Samurai (1954)
34. Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
35. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
36. The Bicycle Thief (1948)
37. City Lights (1931)
38. Yojimbo (1961)
39. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
40. Mr. Smith goes to Washington (1939)
41. Rashomon (1950)
42. The Battleship Potempkin (1925)
43. Night of the Living Dead (1968)
44. The Thing (1982)
45. L'Eclisse (1962)
46. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
47. Hiroshima mon amour (1959)
48. In the Mood for Love (2000)
49. The Battle of the Algiers (1965)
50. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973)
51. Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
52. I am Cuba (1964)
53. Detour (1945)
54. Ed Wood (1994)
55. Drunken Angel (1948)
56. Paths of Glory (1957)
57. Sawdust and Tinsel (1953)
58. La Dolce Vita (1960)
59. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (1974)
60. Audition (1999)
61. Branded to Kill (1967)
62. F for Fake (1973)
63. Sherlock, Jr. (1924)
64. White Heat (1949)
65. The 400 Blows (1959)
66. Unforgiven (1992)
67. Run Lola Run (1998)
68. Network (1976)
69. Harold and Maude (1971)
70. M (1931)
71. Band of Outsiders (1964)
72. Taxi Driver (1976)
73. Star Wars (1977)
74. Annie Hall (1977)
75. Playtime (1967)
76. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
77. Notorious (1946)
78. Ringu (1998)
79. Dirty Harry (1971)
80. Back to the Future (1985)
81. Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
82. On the Waterfront (1954)
83. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
84. Jaws (1975)
85. Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979)
86. North by Northwest (1959)
87. Platoon (1986)
88. The Jazz Singer (1927)
89. Blow Out (1981)
90. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
91. The Cabinet of Dr. caligari (1919)
92. Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmakers Apocalypse (1991)
93. Die Hard (1988)
94. Young Frankenstein (1974)
95. Re-Animator (1985)
96. Airplane! (1980)
97. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
98. After Hours (1985)
99. Raising Arizona (1987)
100. Plan 9 From Outer Space (1958)

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I've often attempted to write a "favourites" list. But on every occasion I've tried I haven't been able to complete it. I just can't list movies, I'm never happy with what I put down. So now, I just don't bother.
Excellent list though - I haven't seen them all, but there's a lot of quality there. Great #1 too.
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These are the films you consider the greatest ever made or just your all-time favorites?
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Just all-time favorites, no where near "Greatest Films Ever Made", these are just the top 100 films that have entertained me over the years.
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Then I can't fault you for your some of your taste
Just kidding. Like all lists, there are some I hate and some I love. Your own lists will always be the ones you like the best, for obvious reasons.
I actually have compiled a list of, IMO, the 100 greatest films ever made. I'll post it sometime tomorrow.
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What are some of the movies you like or disagree with? Just curious? Maybe we can have a cool chat about them. Again, its all opinion and no one is right or wrong, but I love hearing other people's points of view and getting ideas from their perspective. I should never limit myself to my own ideals.
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Well 2001 is one of my favorites and is #5 on my list of the greatest of all-time, so I loved seeing that one atop the list. However, I loathe Fellini, so seeing 8 1/2 got me pretty irritated. I also consider Ikiru one of Kurosawa's weakest, as opposed to the majority, which considers it one of his strongest if not his strongest.
Also, as a huge fan of the Golden Age of Hollywood, I think the list not only suffers from a lack of classic Hollywood films, but the few that do appear, like Double Indemnity and The Grapes of Wrath are among the ones I dislike and find grossly overrated.
When I post my list, I'm sure your complaints will be the inverse: Too many classics and not enough foreign films. I, like you, am a big Ingmar Bergman fan; however, I don't rate Winter Light and Sawdust and Tinsel as highly as you do, nor do I consider The Seventh Seal as amazing a film as I'm assuming you do considering its extremely high placement on your list.
I believe his greatest films are, in order, Persona, Shame, and Wild Strawberries.
He is a master, though, so that's just nitpicking. The fact that he's there at all is great to see.
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Originally Posted by Bullitt68
Well 2001 is one of my favorites and is #5 on my list of the greatest of all-time, so I loved seeing that one atop the list. However, I loathe Fellini, so seeing 8 1/2 got me pretty irritated. I also consider Ikiru one of Kurosawa's weakest, as opposed to the majority, which considers it one of his strongest if not his strongest.
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Why do you loathe Fellini so much? Just out of curiosity? I consider him one of the greats. Scorsese once mentioned this, but it seems your either in the Antonioni camp, or the Fellini camp. Like Scorsese though, I'm fortunate enough to have access to both camps. I like them each about equally, (though to be honest, I do like Antonioni a little bit more). As far as Ikiru is concerned, I find it Kurosawa's best because it, to me anyway, illustrates his humanism better than his other films. Rashomon is genius in technique, but I felt I got closer to Kurosawa, as the person, in Ikiru.
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Also, as a huge fan of the Golden Age of Hollywood, I think the list not only suffers from a lack of classic Hollywood films, but the few that do appear, like Double Indemnity and The Grapes of Wrath are among the ones I dislike and find grossly overrated.
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This I can take. I too love classic Hollywood, especially over contemporary Hollywood. And believe me, I compiled a huge list of films before I inevitably crossed them out to create a smaller "compact" list... many of them were classic Hollywood films. So both you and me are feeling the burn a bit. However, I never think Double Indemnity as overrated. To me it is a crowning achievement in Hollywood noir. Though I could understand The Grapes of Wrath as being overrated. My love of the film however comes not exactly from Steinbeck's story, but rather John Ford's direction in that film. I find that film very aesthetically beautiful and it often times moves me to tears.
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When I post my list, I'm sure your complaints will be the inverse: Too many classics and not enough foreign films. I, like you, am a big Ingmar Bergman fan; however, I don't rate Winter Light and Sawdust and Tinsel as highly as you do, nor do I consider The Seventh Seal as amazing a film as I'm assuming you do considering its extremely high placement on your list.
I believe his greatest films are, in order, Persona, Shame, and Wild Strawberries.
He is a master, though, so that's just nitpicking. The fact that he's there at all is great to see.
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Yeah, that's all personal taste, like I said I had a larger list of films prior to me "cutting them down", and much of them in there were Bergman including the three you mentioned. Persona was especially difficult to cut down, but I didn't want my entire list being headed by Bergman.
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Why do you loathe Fellini so much?
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A simple answer: Basically any time you read a Roger Ebert review of a Fellini film and he starts going on about what he loves about Fellini, every point he mentions as a reason he loves him is a reason I don't.
His films are self-indulgent, meandering mechanical masturbation. La Strada was the only film I didn't hate, but I didn't like it very much, either. I'm holding out for Nights of Cabiria. That's the last "big" film of his I've yet to see. If I don't like that one, then that's the final nail in his coffin.
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Scorsese once mentioned this, but it seems your either in the Antonioni camp, or the Fellini camp.
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I hate them both. I like what Orson Welles had to say about the two of them in his 1967 Playboy interview.
Orson Welles - Playboy Interview - Director - Producer
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PLAYBOY: How do you feel about the films of Antonioni?
ORSON WELLES: According to a young American critic, one of the great discoveries of our age is the value of boredom as an artistic subject. If that is so, Antonioni deserves to be counted as a pioneer and founding father. His movies are perfect backgrounds for fashion models. Maybe there aren't backgrounds that good in Vogue, but three ought to be. They ought to get Antonioni to design them.
PLAYBOY: And what about Fellini?
ORSON WELLES: He's as gifted as anyone making pictures today. His limitation—which is also the source of his charm—is that he's fundamentally very provincial. His films are a small-town boy's dream of the big city. His sophistication works because it's the creation of someone who doesn't have it. But he shows dangerous signs of being a superlative artist with little to say.
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I'm harsher on Fellini than Welles, though. I don't think he's a gifted filmmaker and I don't find anything about him charming.
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As far as Ikiru is concerned, I find it Kurosawa's best because it, to me anyway, illustrates his humanism better than his other films. Rashomon is genius in technique, but I felt I got closer to Kurosawa, as the person, in Ikiru.
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I can understand that, but for me, Rashomon, Throne of Blood, The Seven Samurai, Ran, I Live in Fear, The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, they're all MUCH better.
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I never think Double Indemnity as overrated. To me it is a crowning achievement in Hollywood noir.
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I consider Billy Wilder among the most overrated filmmakers of all-time and I think Double Indemnity would've been awful had it not been for Edward G. Robinson, who keeps me from going so far as hating the film.
The writing is terrible and MacMurray, while I like and respect him, isn't that great an actor, and the same can be said about Barbara Stanwyck, who I like and respect but have never been too impressed with.
Films like The Maltese Falcon, The Third Man, The Big Sleep, The Lady from Shanghai, The Killers, The Big Heat, Touch of Evil, Dark Passage, Out of the Past, I mean, it's just not even a contest. It's very bottom of the barrel in terms of film noir IMO.
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Though I could understand The Grapes of Wrath as being overrated. My love of the film however comes not exactly from Steinbeck's story, but rather John Ford's direction in that film.
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And I consider John Ford THE most overrated filmmaker of all-time.
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I find that film very aesthetically beautiful and it often times moves me to tears.
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Gregg Toland's cinematography was beautiful, I'll give it that.
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Bullitt has asked me for my list in the past, and having recently joined criticker, a film ranking site, I feel i can do just that, albeit without pictures. Also be warned that it has several foreign films:
1. Playtime (Jacque Tati, 1967)
2. 8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
3. Fanny and Alexander (Ingmar Bergman, 1982)
4. Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
5. Three Colors: Red (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1994)
6. My Dinner With Andre (Louis Malle, 1981)
7. Nashville (Robert Altman, 1975)
8. Ikiru (Akira Kurosawa, 1952)
9. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
11. The Decalogue (Krzysztof Kieslowki, 1989)
12. Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972)
13. Aguirre: the Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)
14. The Double Life of Veronique (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1991)
15. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
16. McCabe & Mrs. Miller (Robert Altman, 1971)
17. M (Fritz Lang, 1931)
18. Ran (Akira Kurosawa, 1985)
19. Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)
20. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)
21. Band of Outsiders (Jean-luc Godard, 1964)
22. Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)
23. The Conversation (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
24. Double Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)
25. Grave of the Fireflies (Isao Takahata, 1988)
26. The Maltese Falcon (John Huston, 1941)
27. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
28. Tokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu, 1953)
29. The Big Heat (Fritz Lang, 1953)
30. The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
31. City Lights (Charles Chaplin, 1931)
32. The Long Goodbye (Robert Altman, 1973)
33. Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
34. Lawrence of Arabia (David Lean, 1962)
35. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (F. W. Murnau, 1927)
36. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
37. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)
38. The 400 Blows (Francois Truffaut, 1959)
39. Black Narcissus (Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, 1947)
40. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960)
41. Singin' in the Rain (Stanley Donen, 1952)
42. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
43. Paths of Glory (Stanley Kubrick, 1957)
44. The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
45. My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988)
46. Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
47. Ace in the Hole (Billy Wilder, 1951)
48. How Green Was My Valley (John Ford, 1941)
49. Mon Oncle (Jacques Tati, 1958)
50. The Godfather Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
51. Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze, 1999)
52. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1976)
53. Mr. Hulot's Holiday (Jacques Tati, 1953)
54. The Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)
55. Exotica (Atom Egoyan, 1994)
56. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974)
57. The Manchurian Candidate (John Frankenheimer, 1962)
58. A Hard Day's Night (Richard Lester, 1964)
59. Breathless (Jean-luc Godard, 1960)
60. Ugetsu (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)
61. Cool Hand Luke (Stuart Rosenberg, 1967)
62. Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982)
63. Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, 1972)
64. Bonnie and Clyde (Arthur Penn, 1967)
65. My Man Godfrey (Gregory La Cava, 1936)
66. It's A Wonderful Life (Frank Capra, 1946)
67. The Leopard (Luchino Visconti, 1963)
68. 12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957)
69. Three Colors: Blue (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1993)
70. Stroszek (Werner Herzog, 1977)
71. Rififi (Jules Dassin, 1955)
72. All About Eve (Joseph Mankiewicz, 1950)
73. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
74. Rebel Without a Cause (Nicholas Ray, 1955)
75. Shadow of a Doubt (Alfred Hitchcock, 1943)
76. Fallen Angels (Wong Kar-wai, 1995)
77. Peeping Tom (Michael Powell, 1960)
78. Amadeus (Milos Forman, 1984)
79. Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
80. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)
81. The Burmese Harp (Kon Ichikawa, 1956)
82. The Gospel According to St. Matthew (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1964)
83. The Wages of Fear (Henri Georges-Clouzot, 1953)
84. In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)
85. F for Fake (Orson Welles, 1974)
86. Yojimbo (Akira Kurosawa, 1961)
87. All the President's Men (Alan J. Pakula, 1976)
88. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
89. The Battleship Potemkin (Sergei Eisenstein, 1925)
90. Army of Shadows (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1969)
91. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
92. The Bicycle Thief (Vittorio De Sica, 1948)
93. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
94. The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
95. The Hustler (Robert Rossen, 1961)
96. Pinocchio (Hamilton Luske and Ben Sharpsteen, 1940)
97. Contempt (Jean-luc Godard, 1963)
98. Dog Day Afternoon (Sidney Lumet, 1975)
99. Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
100. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman, 1975)
Now this is definitely subject to change at any time. In fact a few of these I saw for the first time in the past week or so.
Oh and anyone who hates 8 1/2, I mean, I just cannot comprehend it. It remains one of the deepest, most intellectual, aesthetically beautiful films ever made, and it's pretty much close to the top of just about every list of greatest films I have ever seen.
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