Saw VI......seriously?

[jonnyhiboy!]

Originally Posted by Claireofthemoon

^ That doesn't really sound unreasonable. If I had a kid I would rather that he/she watch a porn movie than torture shit like Hostel. Sex is natural and normal. The U.S. culture is screwed up in that you can watch television and see people shot and killed,. but my goodness, show a nipple and it's a mjaor friggin' deal.

I 100% agree with you on that statement. When i was younger if i watched some shit like Saw or Hostel i would have been pissing myself. In my opinion Hostel is worse cause sicko people actually get paid to murder and torture people. Torture is what i consider unnessacary to be in films at all. Saw does things to teach people a lesson to be better people(as far as i remember) Exactly, sex and nipples etc is all natural(technically lol) and torturing people is not and they freak more about nipples than violence and torture. And all this stuff like 'if it's on after 9pm no kid will see it' is bullshit. A lot of kids stay up late.

[Escape]

Personally, I have to disagree about watching a porn over torture porn since with porn, it's obviously many men out there get off on it and take it to the bed (eg. one night stands full of lust and objectifying each other) with them whereas you don't see that with torture porn of course unless the individual is already messed up in the head.

[Claireofthemoon]

Well, we all have our own opinion, and I know I can't change your, wouldn't even try.

[Deaf_Null]

Originally Posted by Escape

Personally, I have to disagree about watching a porn over torture porn since with porn, it's obviously many men out there get off on it and take it to the bed (eg. one night stands full of lust and objectifying each other) with them whereas you don't see that with torture porn of course unless the individual is already messed up in the head.

Huh? That doesn't make sense really. And what's wrong with one night stands full of lust and objectifying each other, you really think that comes from watching porn movies? Prostitution is one of the oldest professions, so how were these men influenced by porn? They pay and get their lust fulfilled. It's nature, man. I hate to bring this up, but if you are referring to the 'Sexualization of the Western society', we have those discussion here several times a year and it's always the jesus lovers and muslims that bring this up. Being offended by adverts on billboards, cause some girl is in her Sloggi undies And before you know it they are talking about decadence of society and immorality.

[Escape]

I'll answer this here and stop since we are already off topic.

Originally Posted by Deaf_Null

Huh? That doesn't make sense really. And what's wrong with one night stands full of lust and objectifying each other, you really think that comes from watching porn movies?

What I mean is the feelings of lust are part of real life as well and very much accepted by being brought home with them in their own relationships. That gore porn isn't. Real porn is actually happening as in sexual intercourse is taking place on that screen and it's not some pretend acting lust so the comparisons are a bit unfair. Nobody is dying on Saw VI.

They pay and get their lust fulfilled. It's nature, man.

It's also human nature to lust for blood but that's no excuse to act upon it. Lust destroys families and relationships so using that reasoning would imply all you marriage folks out there are ok with their spouse cheating on them in the name of this lust because hey, it's human nature right and we can't control ourselves.

Originally Posted by Deaf_Null

I hate to bring this up, but if you are referring to the 'Sexualization of the Western society', we have those discussion here several times a year and it's always the Jesus lovers and muslims that bring this up. Being offended by adverts on billboards, cause some girl is in her Sloggi undies And before you know it they are talking about decadence of society and immorality.

Yes but I don't debate these things saying: "My God says not to so don't do it." That would be quite futile for obvious reasons. I attempt to reason it out in a secular way. Here's my point. Would you want your sister, daughter, mother, brother, son, and father being looked at like some piece of meat by another human being? That everything that makes them special and unique as a human being is stripped away in that one meeting of lust filled intercourse by this man or woman. Everyone on those porn screens are someones family member and just because they are strangers to me, doesn't make them any less worthy and deserving of their own human self dignity.

And I've no clue what Sloggi undies are lol.

[Deaf_Null]

Originally Posted by Escape

What I mean is the feelings of lust are part of real life as well and very much accepted by being brought home with them in their own relationships. That gore porn isn't. Real porn is actually happening as in sexual intercourse is taking place on that screen and it's not some pretend acting lust so the comparisons are a bit unfair. Nobody is dying on Saw VI.

And nobody is dying on porn either. Some people enjoy torture porn and bloody movies, some enjoy just straight porn. I think it has to do with the individual itself, how they experience the information they see on the screen and how they handle that.

It's also human nature to lust for blood but that's no excuse to act upon it. Lust destroys families and relationships so using that reasoning would imply all you marriage folks out there are ok with their spouse cheating on them in the name of this lust because hey, it's human nature right and we can't control ourselves.

No, this is not what I ment. And I disagree that lust destroys families. Lust can also be explained as in desire and cravings, which you can have for your wife/husband of girlfriend/boyfriend for instance. Cheating is something completely different, that is the own individual that makes that choice. Your reasoning would imply that porn movies would encourage cheating on your wife/husband, I disagree with that.

Here's my point. Would you want your sister, daughter, mother, brother, son, and father being looked at like some piece of meat by another human being?

Frankly, I don't give a shit. Probably some women look at me the same way I don't care really what they think, as long as it doesn't bother me. Thinking is one thing, action is another. Almost sounds a bit like what they call the '

Gedankenpolizei

Thought_Police

'

Everyone on those porn screens are someones family member and just because they are strangers to me, doesn't make them any less worthy and deserving of their own human self dignity.

Course not, would be wrong to think like that. Some great actors started out in the porn industry. Still waiting for a good porn though that actually has a plot or an unexpected twist

And I've no clue what Sloggi undies are lol.

They have these advertisements on huge Billboards here and some people are trying to ban it, cause they feel offended by it, what's wrong with this picture, those butterflies are soooo cute

[Escape]

Dude, I think we will have to agree to disagree and I'll leave it at that.

Originally Posted by Deaf_Null

They have these advertisements on huge Billboards here and some people are trying to ban it, cause they feel offended by it, what's wrong with this picture, those butterflies are soooo cute

lol I think you set me up.

[jonnyhiboy!]

Porn isn't right for underage people and neither is torture porn. Why do they all it that anyway? No one i doubt is sick enough to w**k off at it, or is that what it means?! What i mean is would you rather see a nipple on tv or someone get killed? Which is more appropriate. Probably a nipple because it is natural and killing ain't.

[Optimus Prime]

I went to see this, and actually enjoyed it, didn't think i was going too. a little better than 5 IMO.

[helloval]

i am not a horror movie fan, but i really enjoyed SAW I. SAW II's plot was not bad too. but i thought from SAW III onwards, the plot was a little weak..

haven't caught SAW VI yet but judging from some reviews.. think i might not. any recommendations?